Chemical-Collective.com Dutch RC Vendor [Trusted Shop Review]

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Alpha Chain BV Gouda: The chemical-collective.com office (© Google Street View)
PS: The logo inserted is misleading. Not in house number 5 but house number 7 he registered his companies. My mistake, sorry.

Sketchy?

Recently, Chemical Collective has been called sketchy here for even splitting orders shipped within the Netherlands, which – so I assumed – would indicate that there would be something wrong with the products he is selling since research chemicals are perfectly legal in the NL.

However, Chemical Collective stresses that it would indeed be unusual and unnecessary to do so, but that it had nothing to do with bunk or mislabeled substances, and was a habit rather.


The Age of Instagram: Beautiful photos, a perfect selfie during sunset, a professional logo and a nicely done website that tells you: I look like I was quality, order with me!


Doxxing

Is this the way we enter the post-factual area or have things always been like this? And why would I be afraid of my name being published? Would my mother break out into tears once she learnt that her little JRG has become a criminal? Would angry mothers, whose children JRG poisons without knowing how dangerous these substances are, burn down his car? Will he then try his luck as a Bitcoin gambler again? Would his brother count the coins like Dustin Hoffman did in Rainman? Might I have deserved this and is money really everything?

Since chemical-collective provides no legit imprint, I googled for their company name:

Alphachain BV

Jacob founded this company in October 2019. He seems to be everywhere since, like writing emails nonstop, paying the big forums nice money for being listed as trustworthy, or in some forum to have banner ads or just paying for being allowed to have a thread of his own. These braindead fuckfaces running illegal profit-oriented forums in which they advertise drug shops and give tips on how to order to more easily bypass customs are the worst. Complete nuts, but clever enough to make Jacob pay for a banner ad displayed right in between two ads for illicit pharmaceutics. drugbuyersguide make at least 60,000 USD per year, illicit pharmaceutics seems to be a growing business. Jacob is in the “Internet retail trade in other non-food products” business. Most drug dealers use shop fronts, however, his one is actually a real shop, funny.


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By the way, Lizard Labs would never register their shops as shops. As carwash maybe, but not as a shop. If you order from rarechems.com, you order from an officially registered “Wholesaler of pesticides and fertilizers”. More soon.

Comparing oneself with the mafia… No, Jack’s not that bad. He might have started squeezing money out of Americans junkies, but to be fair: To me he has always shown to be an intelligent, friendly, funny and honest guy. I don’t know why he would advertise with this mafia forum, greed should be treated in hospitals, it would make this paragraph a nicer place to read. And to write.

Unfortunately, after having spent so much on advertising in the US, he couldn’t spare a single sample for testing, I received exactly what I ordered and since I could only afford a small order, this thing turned out to be an extremely disappointing experience…

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3 products, 2 feel like Jacob was stealing money from me, 1 is unusual but okay

The DCK felt unusual, like O-PCE in the first minutes, but then started feeling familiar. It lifts your mood and you feel alright, however, already on the second day there were hardly any effects noticeable and half a gram is fast gone.

Then the 3-FPM. This compound has been around for quite a while but I never tested it, cos Phentrazine is not a pleasure substance. And, surprise, neither is 3-FPM, it’s actually one of the worst chemicals I have ever held in hands. Do you trust reviews in internet forums? I know you do, and this thing sucks big time, trust me on that.

I also ordered two blotters of 1cP-LSD and took both at once. After two hours, I gave up, not the slightest feeling of any psychoactive effect.

After four hours, I knew, chemical-collective might have a nice website and make tens of thousands Euros each year, but he doesn’t seem to care about quality at all. It’s all about squeezing money out of us.

It’s a facade. The big money he makes is as real as his tainted DCK, the ugly 3-FPM, and his inactive 1cP-LSD. Not to mention the prices: 15 Euros for two sheets of worthless paper? What a nerve!!!

Always on Message

Jacob is constantly writing emails and trying to entertain his customers: He donates 5% of his enormous win span to Médecins Sans Frontières, he arranges an artwork gallery competition, or a T-shirt design contest, but there is one thing he might have forgotten about:

Nothing kills a bad product faster
than good advertising.

Bill Bernbach

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25 responses to “Chemical-Collective.com Dutch RC Vendor [Trusted Shop Review]”

  1. I feel I need to say sorry here. The parcel from Chemical Collective that I just picked up has the correct sender details (real company name, name, address, phone). So Jacob was not bluffing; he cares.

    Also, he somehow managed to put two t-shirts and two posters into a parcel that you would not believe how small it is; And yet, the t-shirts are not crinkled, and I have no clue how the posters fit into this tiny box. Whoever he hired for packing will most probably have been headhunted from a circus.
    ;-D

  2. To finish this project and to put an end to any silly dumbasses’ claims about doxing anybody, the following link provides an piece of Dutch legislation that clearly states that web shops in the Netherlands are obliged to provide an imprint containing name, address, trading name, phone number etc.

    https://rc-scene.com/trusted-research-chemical-vendors-usa/comment-page-17/#comment-2944

    That some vendors try to hide and break with the law is not my problem. The Real RC, Predator-RC and many other RC vendors provide an imprint, by the way.

    1. Since Jacob would not be able to understand Dutch legislation and told me that providing imprints was compulsory only in Germany, I had to teach myself some Dutch vocabulary to find the respective law.

      Decide yourself, whether you think that someone who cannot even read legislation written in his mother tongue should be allowed to handle and sell dangerous compounds – or maybe better not?

  3. UPDATE on Chemical-Collective Joke:

    #AVOID this sketchy vendor.

    He is shipping trash substances, is repeatedly dealing with mislabeled substances and a definite threat to your health.

    If his substances were clean and what they state to be, there would not be any reason to trying to hide his shippings by splitting orders into numerous small envelopes even when shipping within in the Netherlands, where Research Chemicals are perfectly legal!

  4. Jack and “Chemical Collective” are absolutely awesome and go way above and beyond what any shop has to. Im a total bitcoin newbie and messed up a bit in the process and was short a dollar or two. This was not a problem, he understood and sent me the product.

    I got my DCK which was absolutely awesome, my lab conducted very satisfying research with it. Somehow the other 2 chems that was sent separately got lost in the mail, this was during the height of Covid.

    It was sent unregistered and Jack explained he don’t re-ship unregistered packages but agreed to anyways. It took me about 2 weeks and I got my chems this time. Let me tell u, the 1p was anything but bunk.

    To sum up, the service was the best iv’e ever gotten from any RC company and the product tested great in my lab. And no, I did not get paid to write this and im not romantically involved with anyone at Chemical Collective. The only negative I have to say is that they have stopped shipping to USA, it’s a great loss.

  5. Hey there,

    To address some of the points raised in this review (I’ll try to keep it brief).

    Just for some context – our first interaction with the writer of RC Scene was him attempting to order a-PHP to Austria (where we don’t ship at all and a-PHP is illegal) by putting his country as “Australia”. We noticed this and emailed him to arrange a refund. I found this quite odd given that he is highly critical of vendors who don’t follow the law carefully since our shipping policy.

    We then had very lengthy email exchanges, in which I (somewhat naively) answered all of his questions in depth. In hindsight, as soon as he opened one of his emails referring to me using my full name, that should have been enough of a red flag to end our dialogue right there.

    Then several months go by and we just get an email from him saying:

    “Hi,

    I just finished my first devastating shop review and wanted you to give the opportunity to correct details or add statements, thanks

    Have a happy Wednesday!”

    Which was quite creepy, given the fact that the review starts with a picture of my house and involves physical threats of violence (see above comments).

    Anyway, not to make this too long, we’ve since had the DCK he’s referring to in his review tested as someone made a post on Reddit saying they’d washed it and lost half the product (apparently washing is not as simple as dissolving the product in acetone/alcohol). The results came back as >98% purity. Which wasn’t surprising given that it was produced by Lizard Labs and the only DCK on the market that I was aware of (this was the sandy batch btw, their most recent batch is more beige/less brown).

    We didn’t have the other products tested as we didn’t have any other complaints about them and given the nature of the review and our prior interactions it seemed he was more out to damage our reputation than provide legitimate criticism.

    The product he’s referring to in the comments that someone emailed him about saying it was caustic was 3-FEA. We contacted that customer, refunded them and temporarily took it off the shelves while we had it independently tested. It came back showing >97% purity.

    Here’s a link showing both test results:

    3-FEA – https://imgur.com/a/00EPm5x

    DCK – https://imgur.com/jvlKE1X

    The mislabeling of 4-HO-MiPT was 100% our fault and we’ve done our best to make amends to all the customers that were sent the wrong product. Though honestly nothing one can do makes up for a mistake like that.

    If anyone has any questions for us, feel free to contact us through the contact form on our website.

    All the best

    Jack

    1. 3-FEA? It was 3-FPM, as mentioned in the article above.

      I asked you if this was your house or office, you did not answer. If you handle those chems in your living room, I will switch images and take a screenshot of your website instead.

      Your name can be found on at least two websites (e.g. drimble), it has never been a secret. You registered multiple companies which makes you a person of interest.

      Is A-PHP legal in Australia, btw.? 😉

      Kind regards!

    2. I’d like to see the test result for 3-FPM, btw. If this was above 90% I would seriously wonder. I would not have ordered if I had not expected interesting products. The shops featured are supposed interesting ones, not bad ones, of course.

  6. CC has always been genuine and professional. They are a great company in my opinion. Mix-ups happen but I can definitely say that the Chemical Collective team has always done good by me and I have.not had a single negative experience.

    It feels like someone is trying to squash them down because of one mistake.

    I will have Jack’s back til the end and I think CC is the most upfront prideful shop in the NL.

    1. Hi Papameo,

      I have fullest understanding for addicts falling in love with their dealers,it reminds me of the Stockholm Syndrome. He is always on message, paid every bigger US forum for good reviews and is charming, no doubt about that.

      However, two people ordered – we were expecting good products but received caustic, corrosive and tainted products.

      So these were 2 mistakes already, and mistake number three is especia even: Selling mislabeled substances can end deadly.

      Also, it was not a single case, he had sent these mislabelled substances to multiple customers!

      This is not about if we like CC Joke, this has become a question of hospitalization or burial. This is not a campaign against him, RC SCENE happens to not be a marketing platform, we don’t take money and sweep mistakes under the rug. If we see fire, we scream “Fire!” – that is the least an RC info page should do.

      He does not even want to see his mistakes, he sent me a blend of 2 PCP-derivatives and insisted the compound was fresh, not even a month old. What happened in that month? Did one substance climb into the other’s box?

      Another message we received was that after washing one of his substances, 50% had disappeared. I think there is nothing to discuss about.

      The EU Shops list holds so many good vendors, maybe give a new one a try. Lisergias DCK is different from CC Jokes, it even looks different. And it is clean.

      PS: Muse once wrote a song called Stockholm Syndrome, I recommend reading the linked wiki page and giving this song a try 😉

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wV9_je85DE

      Kind regards!

  7. Since Chemical Collective Joke told me no one had ever complained about his aggressive 3-FPM, I want to quote from an email I received about someone else’s experience with this shady vendor:

    << I also received from chemical collective today. Absolute garbage. Corrosive. Caustic. >>
    (August, 2019)

    1. Another email quote from a betrayed customer about Chemical Collective Joke’s toxic substances:

      << I feel like a lot of these products are very impure. I just did a wash on ChemCollectives DCK and lost 50% product but it’s now sparkling white. >>
      (September, 2020)

      1. Warning: Chemical Collective Joke just recently being caught selling mislabelled substances!

        https://twitter.com/rc_scene/status/1304403610672005121

  8. warning that this guy is a cop Avatar
    warning that this guy is a cop

    so you’re trying to doxx and narc on people now? you got a warrant, cop? fuck you

    1. If that is the way people in Montana say thanks, I will be fine with it.

      Just because I use the term “doxxing” does not mean I actually would be doing it. I think you don’t get the point, I hope I can make it clearer:

      Jacob runs an honest business, his name and data are available on the internet and in publicly available documents etc. At the same time, he decided to buy ads on the illegal drugsbguide forum where he would advertise his legal company next to ads of illicit Mexican pharmaceutics.

      Also, on the one hand selling drugs to children and making a fortune out of it, and on the other hand telling his parents he works an honest job in marketing, was a poor performance, if you asked me.

      And no, I have no intention in reporting anybody from the Vendors list to any Narcotics officers. He had always been friendly to me, I don’t hold grudges against anyone unless they lied to me and I happened to find out – what definitely is not the case here.

      PS: I’m not a cop, I am the sheriff:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4azpETEnXQ
      ;-D

    2. I will assist Chemical Joke to stick to the law and to mention his company name and address on his website. Then you can call him a cop if you liked to. The thing is, Chemical Joke is breaking Dutch law is obliged to provide an imprint on his web shop since his company name and brand (web shop) name are not identical. These are no secrets, ask him why he would do that. Avoiding taxes? For his reputation? Did he lie when registering his company? I don’t know.

      And how about that Sherriff song, isn’t that a timeless classic 🙂

  9. suck a phat one Avatar
    suck a phat one

    absolute whackjobs both in the comments and whoever wrote this shit article. do you work for TRRC? CC is the absolute go-to NL vendor today, you don’t know shit about quality either. whatd your pack not show up during corona and you’re still salty? jesus christ get a life

    1. Good morning sucker,

      I am not affiliated with any chemical vendors or manufacturers.

      I tried to write about serious topics like minors ordering synthetic designer drugs and drug dealers being afraid of adding a full imprint to their web shops (which is illegal, by the way), also, I wanted to remind everyone that the Research Chemical industry is playing with fire when they join crooks who advertise illegal pharmaceutics.

      I tried it my way, I knew this was an unusual approach, thank you for your feedback.

      PS: Imagine your daughter, 14, overdosing on some ketamine, never been the same since. I don’t know if there are many parents wild at drug dealers who do not even perform ID checks, and check only the amount of Bitcoins, but personally, I think these RC dudes are just little shittypants. Think of a good newspaper journalist and how many people hate him for playing with their feelings (good newspapers have more than one opinion) – he is not afraid of any attacks, he is a man.

      Finally, you are welcome to write a couple more posts here to get back to level.

      I repeat: This three products I had were absolute shit. Try rarechems or homechemistry or realchems or a good Chinese lab. The Netherlands are known to not even do customs work when 1 kilo 4-MMC was coming in a rice sack directly from South Africa 😉

      PS: The comments are not classy, but being a little shittypant isn’t either.

      PPS: Thank you very much for reading and for your feedback, it means a lot to me!

      Best regards!

      1. PS:

        lsresearchchems, rechemco and RCBOnline offer quality products. The first shop is outstanding! Now might not be the best time to order from Asia, but when COVID-19 hopefully soon will be defeated, there is really absolutely no use in ordering from the Netherlands, if the same product is also available from a good Chinese lab.

      2. good morning schizo

        “PS: Imagine your daughter, 14, overdosing on some ketamine, never been the same since.”

        where are you even trying to go with this?? do you like drugs or not mate??

        1. Hi cuck,

          You find yourself on the only independent and only honest and by far most comprehensive sourcing website available on this planet. It costs me more than you would guess, but it is my present to the community: Death to all scammers!

          I like a lot of things, but I am not fine with research chemical vendors selling sometimes highly toxic chemicals to teenagers. They are good at money laundering their BitCoins, but they do not find the time to check IDs?

          If the industry was less greedy and a tad more intelligent, 4-MMC would still be available. But they needed to sell it to children…

          To give you an imagination of how much money these friends of cutting agents make: A kilo (= 1,000 grams )of 4-MMC was 28 USD, the inventor of selling Mephedrone says. And still they sold to children. Just to make sure you got the relation: 1,000 grams of pure upper costed twenty-eights USD.

          I know, the Research Chemical dislikes any critique, and everything is super great. I also know that this is a lie, people just imitating others, it’s the same everywhere probably. But if I had three shit substances and spent money on it I will fucking post this until Twitter runs out of space, if I felt like it.

          PS: Your “schizo” reminded me of an old club track I’d like to share with you: Scenario Rock – Skitzo Dancer

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVXliBKNflE

  10. In case your son or daughter was hooked up on synthetic designer drugs before his/her fifteenth birthday, and you would like to losen some teeth of Jacob’s, please contact us via ProtonMail. We will provide you with everything you need to know.

    1. If you need any tools or ammunition, please mention it in the email, thank you.

      1. The catapult we ordered from the Swiss military was finally released by customs and is available via the contact form now. First comes, first serves. Since rocks turned out be unbelievable heavy you would need to collect fitting ammunition yourself, sorry. Also, steering the catapult is not as easy as expected, I would recommend practicing with a shopping cart that has a nerve-wracking left twist before ordering.

        Besides from that, the catapult is as good as new. The Swiss army told me it belonged to an old man who hardly ever used it and had parked it in his garage.

        PS: Someone asked us if he could rewrite parts of the shop review above. How funny is that???

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