Trusted Research Chemical Vendors * USA

Last updated January 10, 2020

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This list was compiled to save you from scammers, and definitely not to endorse you trying synthetic drugs!

We cannot place test orders with all the shops all the time, unfortunately, but we do our best to keep the list up to date and reliable.

Sharing your experiences and updates would be of great help!
We will happily publish your reviews and photos!

THANK YOU :))

Info: The scientific design behind the list briefly explained.

If you should experience trouble with any of the shops mentioned, please do let us know, thank you!

USA – Verified Vendors

While even in the Netherlands, Research Chemicals are considered a grey-area-market and even vendors who registered companies (or actually mostly fronts) for their web shops try to stay anonymous because they are afraid of angry mothers whose kids they have poisoned with synthetic designer drugs, in the US, to my best knowledge, only criminals sell Research Chemicals.

Some run web shops, but more often they would meet in forums or use Social Media like Wickr and Discord where they would do Direct Deals, meaning they pay no taxes, just like street dealers around the corner.

In January 2020, an RC Benzodiazepine vendor dealing with Clonazolam, Diclazepam, Flubromazolam & Etizolam was convicted for Online Sale & Distribution of Unapproved Drugs. His illicit money was seized, he will have to pay a fine of up 250,00 USD and he could face up to 5 years in prison.

With Chinese and Russian money conquering the States, also the line between Schedule I drugs and Research Chemicals, between Clearnet and Darknet, has become surprisingly thin. Chinese and Russian vendors would smuggle kilos of Schedule I substances to the USA and so are becoming a threat for the Research Chemical scene…

USA – Shops that are said to be okay

These are okay.

USA – Promising New Vendors

These are okay.

  • Paradox Labs USA (new, not yet verified, will constantly add more products in the upcoming months)
  • VYREN (Verified, 4-AcO-DMT)

USA – Vendors for Adventurers

Diluters, bunk substance senders,
playing dead after payment was received artists / sleepwalkers,
Opiate Crisis “Patriots”, etc.

  • Kinochems (Seemed to look like a selective scammer, while in fact just takes months for processing certain orders. KINO IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON GETTING ALL OPEN ORDERS SHIPPED!)
  • Paracelsus Labs (Quality issues reported since Autumn 2020. Also, do stay off his very toxic 2-MAP-237 & AP-238 methyl piperazines!

USA – Shops of Unknown Status

DO NOT ORDER WITH THESE!

If you happen to know these shops, please share your experience in the comments section. THANK YOU!

USA – Shops to better #Avoid

DO NOT ORDER WITH THESE!

Scheduled substances, diluted trash, insane prices, “reverse shilling”

  • Absolute Chems (Insane prices, poor quality, selective scamming?)
  • ProximoResearch (Reports of selling watered down / trash / bunk benzodiazepines as of 11/2020. Dishonest communication. Also, stay off his very toxic 2-MAP-237 & AP-238 methyl piperazines!)
  • Sellkies Labs (Would swiftly send you payment instructions but then the waiting games starts. Will he ever deliver? Dishonest communication. Also, stay off his toxic AP-238 methyl piperazine!)
  • SSRCs (Deals with illegal Schedule I substances. Heroin is also a Schedule I)

USA – Shops that started scamming

DO NOT ORDER WITH THESE!

#AVOID!

  • RC1 / RC1. (Not accepting new customers; Known Scammer!)
  • Sunshine Labs (Scam!)
  • Syliscybin (Scam!)
  • Tranquil Treats (This scumbag even runs two scam shops under similar names. Sometimes, he would send you Fentanyl-laced Benzodiazepines…)

Find more scammers listed on our KNOWN SCAMMERS Scam page!

USA: Shops which are said to be okay

These shops would sometimes receive good reviews but since two thirds of shop reviews are fake and we do not know anyone personally having ordered with these, we decided to list them but cannot vouch for any of them.

ALBION ALKIMIYA
albionalkimiya.store
https://pastebin.com/GqA3T4JC
TheOnlyAlbion@protonmail.com is correct, was verified by user C.
(some forum has also listed albionalkimiya@tuta.io which I did not check, tbh)

Since September 1, 2020 this Albion vendor does not accept orders from new customers anymore. If you had not ordered with them since March, they won’t serve you neither, even if you used to order with them before.

As long as the shop remains public (website, paste), it will stay listed here. I think the odds of them changing this policy again ain’t that litte.

Currently stocks Benzodiazepines, Dissociatives, Uppers, Phenidates and O-DSMT, sometimes also carries Psychedelics.

Uses a remarkably unfriendly tone on his Pastebin

Will communicate with you only if you send self-destructing messages.
Please mind that he often changes his email address

Prices seem otherworldly
ENCERN SCIENTIFIC
encern.com
📌 Photos & Mini-Shop-Review & Discussion.

Registration is temporarily closed.

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They currently stock Etizolam pellets and PG solutions.
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Same day priority shipping 9am Pacific cut off time.
LABRA TECH
labra.tech

In October 2020, a visitor of this site reported
having been scammed and then being ignored by them.

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Etizolam solutions
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In case you can’t figure out how to place an order with them, like I wouldn’t have without help of our friend S., maybe join them on Discord and open a support ticket: labra.tech/contact-us/
TWEEDLE FARMS
tweedlefarms.com
What looks like an online weed dealer, is actually selling CBD, a non-psychoactive version of Marihuana that us said to increase your mood and to help you relax.

CBD-growers use a loophole in legislation: Since Marijuana is also used in the industry, there is a passage in legislation that allows something like a rope or a pullover made out of weed to contain an maximum of 0.3% Δ9THC.

THC is the psychoactive element in Marijuana, that may lead to panic attacks, or drug induced psychoses. 0.3% of THC shouldn’t do any harm, although it could make you addicted as well.

10,000 5-Star-Ratings on Trustpilot.com
U.S.S.R
Shop details (new options will be added ongoing)

(YouTube)
While people behind the times always tried to divide people, this vendor has a couple of advantages over having to deal with certain US vendors:

Quality
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Prices
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Won’t scam you
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No underweight samples
*
Ships either same day or no later than 48 hours after payment.

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Please mind the time difference:

San Francisco = UTC – 8 hours, New York = UTC – 5 hours,
Amsterdam = UTC + 1 hour, Hong Kong = UTC + 8 hours.

An example:
When it is 8:00 in San Francisco, it already is 17:00 in Europe and already midnight in China.

Only few shops like Smokeys Chem Site offer 24/7 support via live chat. Shops like TRRCC or RareChems as well as most Asian vendors in the list work from 8 to 5 local time. So don’t be disappointed if they cannot answer you immediately because they go to bed at nights.

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Unless you ordered a ton of a product, delivery success rate will be around 90%
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Please mind: In case a letter should not arrive, and you do neither receive seizure information, then customs decided to not press charges against you. State attorneys have more important tasks to deal with than caring about a small amount of an unscheduled substance.
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Before you order, always check back with the DEA’s Orange Book of Controlled Substances and ideally double-check with the DEA’s list of recently added schedules. Scheduled / controlled means banned / illegal.

Remember: Just because a product is legal in, e.g. Hong Kong or in the Netherlands it could still be a controlled substance in the US!

Also: The state you live in could have substances scheduled that are not banned nationwide and thus illegal in your area but not listed by the DEA. Check your local legislation and last, not least: Keep in mind that the US have an analogue act meaning there are more substances illegal than the DEA would list.
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European and Asian Research Chemical Shops are real companies that pay taxes.

USA: Promising New Vendors

These are young enthusiasts, they might need some time to find the right balance, maybe expect short delays in order processing from time to time.

Since they can’t afford paying off the big forums, there are not too many places that would mention them.

LEGIT RC
bin.privacytools.io/?94c7a8cbe86b716a
bin.privacytools.io/?047fe20d432c9269
Trailz25@protonmail.com
📌 Photos & Mini-Shop-Review & Discussion.

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Benzodiazepine solutions & more (e.g. 4F-MPH)
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Since PG solutions can grow bacteria, he uses everclear instead.

Has all substances tested before offering them for sale!

Uses professionally printed labels, the photos in the shop review are outdated.
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Started vending in August 2020. Says, quote, “I started up a month ago because I was tired of getting scammed.” 😉
PLASMAMOON: KEEP HUSH
rentry.co/keephush
plasmamoon249@protonmail.com
Wickr: plasmamoon249
📌 Photos, Mini-Shop-Review & Discussion

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Does accept new customers again
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US-based vendor offering 1P-LSD “Pink Sunshine” blotters
(100µg each)


1P-LSD is a psychedelic drug (a Lysergamide) closely related to LSD

Please make sure to read his Terms & Conditions and Refund Policy, etc. on his website before ordering! Prefers PGP-encrypted communication, do not mention the word “order” or similar in the subject line.
PARADOX LABS USA
paradox-usa.onlineweb.shop
https://pastebin.com/2HZnvDbw
pastebin.com/csYxVmt6
📌 Photos & Mini-Shop-Review & Discussion

(NOT A VERIFIED VENDOR YET)
Is currently in hospital, will answer your emails and process your orders as soon as he is home again!
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Shop is open for business with little stock now (Clonazolam and Bromazolam solutions only).
In January, February and March more and more products will become available.

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Please mind: Right now, delivery can’t be done same day, expect a delay of two days in order processing.
VYREN
https://rentry.co/vyren
vyren@protonmail.com
📌 Photos & Mini-Shop-Review & Discussion

4-Aco-DMT

Started vending in Summer 2020
Receives stellar reviews

USA: Shops for Adventurers

These shops either have difficulties supplying constant quality (might sell watered down, bunk or stale substances). Some would stop communication once you have sent them money. And last, not least, some of them are REAL OPIATE CRISIS “PATRIOTS“…

KINO CHEMS
(kinochems.com)
https://pastebin.com/ RBsNtYyk
bin.privacytools.io/ kino chems
TOR link: http://pcv2hp6fxa62c4dbb2cwyb2g2achdpx5t7ifyu7yxyo2ckntddhfy4id.onion/
📌 Insights into some kind of mind: Kinochems portrait. Discussion.

PLEASE NOTE:
DO NOT SEND HIM MONEY UNTIL ALL OPEN ORDERS HAVE BEEN SHIPPED! There are customers waiting for their order to be processed since August (!) already. Today is January 7.
UPDATE: HE IS WORKING ON IT.
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He says he would not taking new orders until all open orders have been shipped, anyways:
https://bin.privacytools.io/?105d75f3633b8daf#apsDX4n9SeKcg42bECqji7JO3qB3n7luHYnNuOUEEzo=

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Claims to possess more than 1,500 kilos of 2F-DCK and that zero of the ~1,000 packs he ships during a year ever got seized. Also claimed to wanting to join the Navy. and starting an honest life..

For secure chatting: https://matrix.to/#/@kinochem:matrix.org
PARACELSUS LABS
paracelsuslabs.net
pastebin.com/EcjBR2GH
STAY AWAY FROM THE PIPERAZINE OPIOIDS (AP-238 and 2-Methyl-AP-237) THEY RECENTLY ADDED TO THEIR STOCK. THESE HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE EXTREMELY TOXIC!

Substance Warning with details on the toxicity of these compounds

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Constant reports about quality issues since October 2020

Why is Paracelsus no longer in the “Shops said to be Okay” section?
Looking for alternatives for Paracelsus bunk quality
Do NOT order so-called 2fdck from Paracelsus Labs. Whatever it is, it isn’t that. Probably toxic. (verified)

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Dissos, Opiates, Benzodiazepine solutions

USA: Shops of Unknown Status

These either are too new to have received reviews yet, some might be gone for good already. We really don’t know. Better play safe! Would you happen to know any of these? If so, please contact us. Thank you!

CARTI SHOP
rentry.co/CartiShop
cartishop@protonmail.com
Wickr: cartishop

Started vending in summer 2020
SEEMS ALREADY TO BE OUT OF BUSINESS.
KILO’S RESEARCH SHOP
rentry.co/kilo
comadose.me/bin
Wire: @comadose

SEEMS OUT OF BUSINESS?
THREADSPACE1 RC SUPPLY
pastebin.com/zkB0irDf
TRheadspace1@protonmail.com

SEEMS OUT OF BUSINESS – #AVOID!
WICKED BLOTTERS
pastebin.com/e5ZQgZS3
wicked_blotters@elude.in
wickedblotters@tutanota.com

Could not find a current paste, also, the email addresses are new to me, be cautious, better #AVOID.

Could be okay shops, could be scammers or out of business. We don’t know. If you do, please let us know, thank you!

If you decided to order with vendors that are not listed HERE, please DO check them against with our little list of known scammers AND always use BOTH Qwant.com AND Google.com, especially with Asian vendors!

An example:

If they advertise any chemicals that are banned in China or were obviously illegal to order, like Crystal Meth or prescription meds, stay away from them! China would arrest and torture Meth dealers!

Also, please understand that some scammers post up to a hundred positive reviews for themselves – each and every day! Scamming has become a multi-million-dollars business, these ill-minded guys would sometimes act professional, may have studied marketing or might be trained sales agents who understand the psychology involved in how to make you buy with them.
Also, a single scam might already mean a a fortune for criminals living in poor countries. So they won’t stop flooding the web with their fake reviews, it pays off for them, they do not feel sorry, they imagine the Western World to swim in money.

USA: Shops to better avoid

These shops are known for offering poor quality or or for selling strong drugs in candy form, or for selling mislabeled substances, or for being obviously sketchy.

ABSOLUTECHEMS
absolutechems(.) com
Bad quality, insane prices

Benzodiazepine powders and solutions.
399 USD for a gram of a Benzodiazepine? Don’t waste your money on such crooks.

Dodgy past
PROXIMO RESEARCH
proximoresearch(.)com
STAY AWAY FROM THE PIPERAZINE OPIOIDS (AP-238 and 2-Methyl-AP-237) THEY RECENTLY ADDED TO THEIR STOCK. THESE HAVE PROVEN TO BE EXTREMELY TOXIC!

Substance Warning with details on the toxicity of these compounds

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Customers complaining about receiving trash substances since November, 2020
Details on that trash substances

Proximo got scammed recently by his supplier. He shared the wholesaler with LegitRC. While LegitRC has all his products tested by an independent lab before offering them for sale, and so found out that these substances were trash, needed to change the supplier and had a loss of income for about a week, Proximo does not test his substances at all and is selling these bunk substances to you.

His loyal customers confirm that he sold them bunk:
https://twitter.com/rc_scene/status/1339042458114646016

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Due to his dishonest communication, for selling highly toxic opioids, for selling bunk substances, and because he was caught posting lies about other vendors, this irresponsible douchebag should definitely be avoided.

With guys that do not care a little about their customers’ health, you never know what product you will receive. Will it be mislabeled? Is it toxic waste? Will it kill me? There is too much risk involved with ordering from such an irresponsible douchebag.
#AVOID
Sellkies / Sellkies Labs
ghost(.)seeksanctuary(.)net/sellkieslabs
Wire: @SELLKIES
sellkies@protonmail.com
STAY AWAY FROM THE PIPERAZINE OPIOID (AP-238) THEY RECENTLY ADDED TO THEIR STOCK. THIS ONE HAS PROVEN TO BE EXTREMELY TOXIC!

Substance Warning with details on the toxicity of these compounds

Seems to constantly let his customers down and blaming it to USPS. Would ship or refund one order in a while (only after you complained in forums!) but the next order again will seem stuck again and never move forwards.

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Was caught posting lies about other vendors.

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SSRCs / RED’S RCs
pastebin(.)TUQ0m9AZ
Claims to be RC Leon’s domestic US vendor. RC Leon is an allegedly Chinese vendor who smuggles schedule I substances to a warehouse in California and sells these in bulk amounts to street dealers.

Not all of his substances might be scheduled yet, but e.g. Eutylone, one of the products he stocks, is according to the DEA “a positional isomer of pentylone, [and thus] eutylone is controlled in schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act.”

Better stick with vendors who play safe. You definitely do not want to have a schedule I drug order confiscated by Law Enforcement.

USA: Shops that started scamming

A country run by a stable genius, everyone seemingly on Benzodiazepines, Fent or Meth, and of course, for some criminals, someday their absurdly high profit is not enough anymore, and they start stealing from you…

FUCKING REPORT SCAMMERS TO POLICE
OR THIS NIGHTMARE WILL EVEN WORSEN!!!

BONGOCHEMS
bongochems com
#AVOID! This shops is notoriously known for (selective) scamming. They would send out like 50% of orders and scam the rest of their customers. It’s a pain in the ass to deal with them.

Checkout their Trustpilot reviews, these clearly show that their business ethics are more than questionable.

There are RC related forums where moderators would constantly defend scammers, especially on the Darknet. Without wanting to out the people involved, just a hint: These guys make more money out of moderating forums than with their actual jobs.

Lame order processing, many mistakes, not reliable at all.
JBerg (Berg /mrBerg19new)
ghostbin . co / paste/ gc5zg
ghost seeksanctuary net / mrberg19new
#AVOID: (SELECTIVE) SCAMMER !

Seemingly he is referring new customers directly into the hands of a scammer, e.g. “Whitebear1, who is of course himself.

He is also messing with loyal customers: Reports of diluted / inactive solutions since Autumn 2020!

Confronted with a scam case in all its details, he would not even reject the accusations...

Wickr: Mrberg19new / Wickr: benzobear 
Bergyfresh19 @ protonmail com
MDX Research USA
pastebin 1wFeBBSn
mdxresearch safe-mail net
#AVOID SCAMMER !
Some say he already used to play his scam game already years ago, he just changes names from time to time.
Neevs Labs
neev-labs com
#AVOID THAT SCAMMER!
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Offline since 12/2020. Will probably return under new names, take care!
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A reliable source told me that he used to send out out O-DSMT (an opioid) instead of 3-HO-PCP (a dissociative) in the past. When trying to verify this information, I stumbled across fresh accusations of selective scamming. Again! Already last year, people were complaining about him scamming, that time he said the issues would have been caused because of a change in ownership. For the recent scamming events, the shop seem to have run out of excuses…
PURE CHEMS
purechems net
#AVOID, SCAMMER !
Users report having been scammed by this shop.
Purple Ghost Chemical
#AVOID SCAMMER !
Users report having been scammed by this shop.
Rapid Research
rentry.co/Rapid_Research
rapidresearch(.)net
info@rapidresear.ch & help@rapidresearch.net & order@rapidresearch.net
rentry(.)co/RapidResearch
#AVOID SCAMMER !

Multiple reports of scamming since September 2020. That asshole told everyone his page would have been hacked and a hacker would have changed the email address and would now scam customers. In fact, Rapid Research himself changed the email and scammed his own loyal customers.
RC1 Domestic Supplier (“Private”)
pastebin(.)com/1sLtbaFF
RC1 paste as of July 18, 2020 without spelling mistakes (PDF)
Search terms:
RC1. / RC1discord
He told me he would stop dealing with drugs, but I just came home from Google and and who do I see advertising on the clearnet again? Mr Shittypants RC1 ! So he is back on the list again.

Be careful: Mr Shittypants RC1 says he would not accept new customers and instead just steal your money if you placed an order, which is a poor performance even for a fucked up criminal who does neither work nor pay taxes.

So if you have already successfully ordered with Mr Shittypants RC1, then he might accept your order. But remember: Mr Shittypants RC1 is dumb as a dog: If he can’t find you in his database, which is a great idea to keep for a criminal to endanger his customers, he would just steal your money. See for yourself what that weasel announed: RC1 vendor paste from June 2020

Email him before ordering. and add question in the subject line just like that:
researchchems1 @ mailfence.com

In case Mr Shittypants RC1 should indeed steal your money, please do let us know, we will nuke that dumb motherfucker to the moon.
Sunshine Labs
sunshine-labs@safe-mail.net
#AVOID THAT SCAMMER!
Syliscybin Scam Report
syliscybin@protonmail.com
#AVOID THAT SCAMMER!
TRANQUIL TREATS CANDY
rentry(.)co/Tranquil_treats
rentry(.)co/tranquiltreatsshoppe
TranquilTreats@pm.me & SoothingSweets@protonmail.ch & SweetShoppe@protonmail.com
#AVOID THAT SCAMMER!

US Vendors come and go. Take care when ordering. Any tips or experiences shared are highly appreciated, thank you!
I MEAN IT! HELP THE COMMUNITY!

956 thoughts on “Trusted Research Chemical Vendors * USA

  1. Just ordered from Vyren.
    If you’re looking for etizolam, they have great domestic US prices and fast service.

    I’ll definitely be going back to Vyren [ edit, K. ]

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  2. Bongo has never let me down. I’ve ordered at least 20 times,and have had 3 hiccups with my order. Once they sent the wrong thing, and 2 times the post office lost the package. All 3 times they immediately replaced my order with extras added in. They’re great. Proximo and Encern are fine sites as well. They all have their advantages, and I use all 4 on a regular basis. I wish eliteion would make a comeback. They were the king of rcs I’m.

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  3. For Bongochems.com , they have between 15-50 reviews (which are pretty unique but can ONLY be found on their site) for the 6 diazapene-logues they stock apparently. Problem is there is no contact info. Phone number 000-123-4567 , email: bonzo@email.com , there just isn’t anyway I can find to speak to them personally at all. They have Twitter , G+ , FB , but they all have virtually no text or info.

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      1. That douche runs a clearnet webshop, a nicely designed one even, but is too dumb to put any contact address on his site? Discord is kindergarten, you gotta be pretty hefty on Benzos to survive there without your brains dying.

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  4. Can vouch for http://www.paracelsuslabs.net, very responsive vendor. received my parcel within a couple days exactly as described, not hassle with order. Passed reagent test thankfully. Would definitely recommend over all other sketchy stores on this site, especially for US orders.

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      1. I only trust kino. I just wish he had some functional stims. I’m so mad Albion didn’t get back to me before they went private. The US RC scene isn’t even an rc scene, it’s a pick who you want to order only benzos from scene. ☹️

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        1. Amphetamines I have not seen anywhere, but Kino will offer 4F-MPH soon:

          <<

          Products coming within 2 weeks: a-PiHP (limited amount of Polish PiHP available now), DCK (quite a bit actually), 4-ho-met fumarate , AL-LAD fumarate (Praying for this to get confirmed) , 4F-MPH, 4F-MAR (I believe we will be some of the first customers for this new compound!), MHPHP, NEP, MXiPr (I was trying out a new vendor before, sorry I didn’t get more tbh), 3-MeO-PCP, 3-HO-PCP (Just realized I never actually re-ordered this, my bad!)

          — Kino Chem

          >

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            1. Don’t bother. He is preparing a new order system and also flooded with email orders. This announcement is from his current email signature, so I’d assume the new compounds will be available in 2 – 4 weeks.

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            2. PS: If you use the same (fake) email address all the time, there will always be shown the same unique gravatar avatar icon next to your nickname which makes identifying you and following the comments more easy. Thank you!!!

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    1. He is ghosting me, what have I done wrong again? 😄

      Has it arrived, did you go with landscape photos this time since they fit the site layout better would you think of 5 sentences maybe? Thank you so much!

      PS: Would you happen to know if he will take break for longer?

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    1. In the meantime I’ve been waiting 3 weeks for my order and have contacted him numerous times being told something different every time. Consider yourself lucky because that’s not the norm.

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      1. Good morning T,

        please send me an email (order confirmation, txid, problem, ordered products, time passed) to info@rc-scene.com.

        He lately overlooked a couple of orders, I collect them into a Word file and will forward them next time (Monday or Tuesday) i contact him. You can of course blacken out your name or address, but the order must be identifyable.

        Thank you.

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        1. How are you? Believe it or not Kino finally shipped and provided me with a TN. So we’re good now. I appreciate all your effort though. Just checked and it’s on the way.

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      2. He will come through. Same thing happened to me. He had a lot of life events happen at once and it caused him to back up. He said he shipped my pack on Tuesday so later this week I’ll post when I get it. He seems like a good dude trying to help out fellow researchers. And my first order of ACRB went very well, followed by a 2f-DCK order, granted we were just chatting about the 2f and that wasn’t my order but that should’ve been squared away and I could see how he could’ve gotten confused about my order. He’s the only US vendor I will go through now after getting scammed for $300 from rapid research on my second order with them. Fuck those guys

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  5. That RAPID RESEARCH asshole has some nerve. For months, he keeps scamming his customers, blaming it on some “hacker” and now he changed his email again and wants you to order with him again?

    THAT CREEP IS ON MY LIST.
    You gotta get up earlier, a lot earlier, you stupid fuck, to try to hide from me.

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  6. Does anybody know if I have to use a self-deleting message inside my proton email for Kino Chems? or I just write the text in the proton email? also, do I need a pastebin account in order to order? or can I just read the menu there and send an email? thanks for any help

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    1. Hi p,

      • No, you do not need to set up your own Pastebin. You could use self-destructing messages like https://privnote.com/ for submitting your personal details, and include the link in the email, but PGP is encrypted anyway. Never write your name and address into a Pastebin!
      • A regular PGP encrypted email is sufficient. If you send him a message that destroys after a day or so, in the worst case, Kino is swamped in orders to fulfill and might not even see your message in time. Only users of Tutanota are expected to use a feature “password protection”, since Tutanota does not encrypt with PGP and Proton could not decrypt an encrypted Tutanota message.

      I hope that sheds some light onto how to send an email 😉

      PS: With software like PGP4WIN which holds many plugins and tools to work with PGP, you can send PGP-encrypted emails with ANY email provider! Mozilla Thunderbird (a mail client like outlook from the company that also develops the Firefox web browser) will hopefully soon have their PGP implementation ready and will be the first email client ever to fully support PGP out of the box. For older versions, you can use the Enigmail plugin, which comes with PGP4WIN. Enigmail and Kleopatra support auto-attaching of your public key, they can create and update as well as revoke public keys, they will work with any keyserver you feed them with (meaning the program searches the recipient’s PGP key for you), they can encrypt the subject line and encryption strength is up to 4096 (Proton is 2048). These tools are cool, but Thunderbird wants all this to provide in its forthcoming email client. In the current version, it works, but some features (like importing your keys automatically) still need improvement. In three to six months those little bugs will be fixed, the key management and options and key-server implementation already look great!

      The current version of PGP4Win is said to finally work with all new Outlook clients (o365, etc.) and a mail client called The Bat! also supports PGP, but both cost money and Mozilla is really on the right track with their PGP implementation for Thunderbird, they thought of everything!

      • If you use web mail only, maybe try “MAILVELOPE”. It supports Hotmail, Gmail etc. and is a browser extension to allow you sending and receiving PGP-encrypted mails with e.g. Gmail’s webmail. It is, however, a bit complicated, I would definitely go for Thunderbird (or wait for three months and then try Thunderbird=.
    2. Regarding PGP4Win. This is the most popular, most advanced and I think meanwhile only OpenPGP suite (contains some handy tools and drivers that will also be needed by Thunderbird.)

    3. There for sure is a PGP4Mac and a PGP4Linux available as well.

      Oh, one last thing: If you are not a evil villain and super genius like me, take 15 minutes to read about the concept of PGP. I receive mails from Proton that are not encrypted, one of our dear vendors must have had a bad dream when planning her PGP concept, and I will provide a manual for Windows and Thunderbird, but probably wait for the next Thunderbird release (which could take up to three months).

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      1. Speaking of super villain: Since American RC forum mods ARE GOOD FOR NOTHING, I WILL FINALLY TAKE DOWN RAPID RESEARCH’S PROTON EMAIL ACCOUNT.

        If that fucking Rapid Research scammer and the idiot forum moderators who believe or are involved in this whole hacking fairytale ever make it to my corner, I won’t say a word, violence also is a kind of communication.

        And that Paracelsus idiot, who spreads lies about me, is next.

        For how many weeks is Rapid Research now scamming customers and claiming he was “on holiday”? Are you freaking out of your mind? Of course it is Rapid Research himself who scams his customers! He created the new email and put in on the website. This no assumption btw. I do know this for sure.

        There is a link saying “Thank You” on the welcome page. A donation of 2 USD would be a nice gesture and help me. We need about 400 by the end of the year. I already donated.

        @dread @dbg @chemforum @reddit @paracelsus @rapidresearch @you

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        1. Making overarching, rude, and inflammatory statements is a deplorable action you probably see a lot of Americans commit. Wouldn’t you agree with me that making such statements when criticizing them is hypocritical?

          I’m sure you’ve seen more than your fair share of online users who identify as American. They account for a huge demographic of Internet users, so it would make sense. Having the highest quantity of negative experiences, non-contributors, or whatever grievances you have is not a legitimate reason to denounce an entire country. It sure isn’t a method of gaining supporters.

          I would agree with you that you have a right to be angry. However, that anger should not extend to all Americans. This behavior is unbecoming of the most reliable source of research chemical vendor information.

          I was, and am still close, to being a contributor after almost wrapping up my first round of 100% successful research experiences. I’d like to ask that you amend your statements to say “most” instead of implying all Americans. I’d agree with you that most of America has some sort of issue.

          Lastly, make no mistake about what I’ve stated above. It appears that English is not your primary language, and that there may be a language barrier between us. However, I mean no disrespect to you whatsoever.

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          1. Dear Act Clreox,

            Thank you for that considerate comment. I edited the posting and it is a lot more precise now.

            There is indeed a language barrier to overcome, and sometimes, I feel like coming from a different planet. But I also, I can’t hide the fact that I like to wake people up by insulting them, sorry for that 😉

            By the way, it was the American President who called several countries “shithole countries” like out of the blue and added, as always, a lie, this time telling you countries would send their worst employees to move to the US. Like countries kept a list of lazy workers and would send them abroad. As long as this stupid fuck is your president, I feel like I could write anything, no matter how dumb or aggressive, and would still do better than the representants of the USA. This can of course not be an excuse.

            The vast majority of RC SCENE visitors is from the US, by the way. The European website was destroyed by criminals and is waiting for something motivational to build it from scratch again…

            When I got out of bed today, I had some ideas for changes on the US site, I might try them first and then visit Europe.

            It turns out that hardly anyone reads the news section. So I will make the news into blog posts and add two categories, “diary” and “news” so that there will be easy filtering between news & gossip and shop reviews.

            If you would like to support the site in any way (e.g. compiling mini reviews with two product photos or whatever), be my guest!

            Kind regards,
            K.

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            1. I understand your frustrations and I am glad that you are a reasonable website operator. Thank you for being considerate yourself.

              I do not support or respect the current US government. Feel free to denounce, criticize, or even threaten the president and his supporters. They stand for everything that is wrong with the USA.

              I will make my contributions. Also, may I ask why you have a specific range for donations? I’m sure there is a good reason but I don’t know it myself.

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          2. Hi,

            Regarding the donations range:

            Donating between 2 and 20 USD sounded better to me than maybe placing a 100 USD PayPal button in a color flashing popup window 😉

            I have not returned larger donations since I learnt that – to my surprise – many visitors have well-paid jobs and spend a fortune on RCs. Whoever sent Kino 90 USD for a single gram of A-PiHP may donate a thousand dollars, if he/she feels like it.

            I was hoping that more visitors would donate little amounts if I pointed out that it is the gesture that counts, not so much the amount. I maybe can’t afford too many interesting test orders for shop reviews at the moment, but that is my problem. All I was hoping for was to generate donations enough to have basic costs (web + adobe) covered.

            If it wasn’t for this ridiculous argument I have with PayPal about an order that was never delivered, I’d probably add a 2, a 10, a 20 and a 40 USD Paypal button. A 10, a 20 and a 40 minutes of time donation button would probably make more sense, though 😉

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    1. The 2MAP237 I received from Proximo is not 237. Smells and looks like burnt 238 (parm cheese) and looks nothing like 237 (usually shiny/scaley and smells of feet or cheese).

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      1. I just received the same. It’s real 2MAP237. When it first come on to the market the powder form, which is what this is was all that you could find. It’s not as good as the crystalline/crystal form. Parc has the same. Probably all that is around at the moment. Rest assured though, it’s legit.

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  7. Ordered from Vyren, took a bit of a risk since it’s listed as “new and promising” section of this list. I’ve tried multiple domestic sources since covid forced me to stop from getting supplies from overseas. I have to say the customer service at Vyren was amazing, would answer any of my questions within just a few hours (even if I sent an email late night). He had my order confirmed and shipped within a day of placing the order. The shipping was discreet and fast (Ordered Monday received by Saturday). The quality of the product was even better than I expected! He also was kind enough to give me ALOT of extra samples since he is new and is really trying to build his credibility and name. I have found my new site and will not be going else where. If you are on the fence about ordering from him like I was since he is a newer shop, I definitely recommend giving him a shot, you won’t be disappointed

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